Hearing damage, Hyperacusis !

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Hearing damage, Hyperacusis !

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i thought i should post this story in case its any help to anyone out there who might be suffering from this, or encounters it in the future.
5 years ago i started suffering from tinnitus in my left ear (from DJing) and at the same time noticed that certain sounds in my everyday life were beginning to hurt my ears, such as washing dishes, my young son's voice etc.
i put this down to the tinnitus and stopped making music for a few months to give my ears a rest.
the tinnitus receded somewhat to the point i hardly noticed it, and i stopped noticing the sounds that had been hurting my ears.
although the tinnitus never went away, i learned to handle it by ignoring it, and i only noticed it in very quiet situations.
i did a bit of research on the web, and realised that i was pretty much doing the right thing under the circumstances.
then about a year ago, i noticed the problem with certain sounds gradually coming back. the tinnitus was still in check, but i was beginning to worry that my hearing had become damaged and things were just getting worse and worse by the day. gigs were becoming difficult, i was having to wear earplugs alot of the time, i was wearing earmuffs for any task that created even the slightest of harsh sounds, phone conversations were becoming painful, and i noticed that certain peoples voices, usually female voices, were hurting my ears so bad, that i had to put my earplugs in when talking to some people.
so i took 6 months out of the studio, presuming it was the fast attack, high mid frequency sounds that i was using for percussive sounds that was causing the problem. again the problem receded somewhat, but this time it didnt go away altogether, and i became very depressed thinking that my music career was over.
then about one month ago an amazing thing happened, i was on the phone to one of my best friends who is also a musician, and he told me that he'd been suffering from something very similar. now this guy is only 24 and i'd been assuming that because i was alot older, it was just general wear and tear from years of loud music environments. i was shocked when he told me he was considering giving up music at 24 to save his hearing, and that he was going to see a specialist the next day to be checked out.
i told him that i was very worried because that morning when i went to the toilet, the sound of my own piss hitting the water in the toilet was hurting my ears, and that i really thought it was all over for me.
then later that day the same friend sent me a link to a blog which he'd found on the internet (which is at the bottom of this post ) and when i read it i couldnt believe it, this was the first line of the blog;
' It was when going to the toilet became difficult that I knew I really had to do something about it '
i knew instantly that this guy was suffering from the same thing as me.
it's well worth reading this blog !!!
it turns out the condition is called hyperacusis, and that there is a very large psychological element to it. basically you become afraid of sound !
and the worst thing you can do is wear ear muffs and ear plugs, because you become more and more insular and more and more afraid of sound.
it appears that you need to be re-taught to like sound, by having up to a years worth of psychotherapy.
when i read this, i thought 'no way' i cant take a year out of music, i'd already lost over 6 months, and i'm a great believer in self healing, i never go to the doctors for anything.
so my answer was to go down to the kitchen and have a good old clatter around with the pots and pans, telling myself it wasnt hurting, and i couldnt believe it, it didnt hurt !
these same sounds, even at much less intensity would have had me running out of the kitchen in pain covering my ears.
(it had got to the point that just two glasses clinking together would have sounded like the big-bang going off in my head)
in the meantime my friend had gone to the specialist, and hadnt really been given any answers, and he came back depressed.
then when i told him what i'd done in the kitchen, he immedeately went to his kitchen and did exactly the same thing.
we both realise that our problems havent gone away completely, but i'd say we're 95% cured.
just to round off the story, both me and my friend played a gig together on friday night, and at the end of the gig, be both realised we'd gone through the whole night without wearing earplugs, and hadn't noticed any hearing problems, it was like we'd forgotten we'd ever had a problem.
weird :!:

you must read this blog;

http://chrissingletonmusic.blogspot.com ... ed-up.html
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Post by sorgenkind »

sorry to tell you but these are sympomes that your hearing start fucking up... i know it is no good thing to read but it is like this, believe it or not (I know what I tell here since my last 2 and half year I worked for a company which manufactures hearing aids) and hyperacusis will soon translate in hearing loss, if you don't care a lot.
It's pretty common the frequencies in which you are likely to have an hearing loss are painful to hear, because the relevant haircells are going harder and harder until they will no longer vibrate and eventually crash. YOu will never be able to hear in these frequencies.
Tinnitus has a high psycosomatic significance, and to some extent hyepracusis too, but once it manifests it is likey to be sign of incoming hearing loss.
It's not that you are gonna be deaf in 2 weeks but please show some love to your hearing and understand its' first signs of danger.
If I were you I'd never skip wearing earplugs, I guess you know that there are some professional types who damp the frequencies almost linear (google for Jrenum, lot better than the others) I wear them all the time except when i am preforming since one hour at 100 dB never killed anyone, anyway being not a dj I don't have these 100 dB one centimeter far from my eardrum (headphones are the best way to fck up the hearing, since you have all the sound pressure very very near the eardrum and haircells, belive me).

As far as haircells goes, there will be no hippy healing system that works, like the brain cells our haircells are not able to re-generate themselves, sad but true, and it's no miracle that hearing aids manufacturer are becoming rich and richer, expecially with the iPod generation.
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i know what you are saying my friend, and of course i'm totally treating my hearing with respect, i never use headphones anymore, i've stopped DJing,
i monitor at very low levels, and of course i realise that there will be some damage whatever happens.
i never go anywhere without my earplugs, but now i dont just put them in at the first sign of any harsh sounds like i used to.
i assess the situation, and if i feel i need to use them, especially in clubs, i put them in.
it's sad that you assoiciate self-healing with hippies though, i've cured myself of several severe chronic illnesses over the years that the medical profession was incapable of helping me with, (infact made worse)
many illnesses have a large psychological element, and half the battle is in your head.
btw there is new research which is refuting the notion that braincells cannot be regenerated. its very easy to assume that our current scientific knowledge is finite and irrefutable, and of course this is proved inaccurate every single day with ongoing research.

i posted this because there must be other people out there who are or will be suffering from the same condition, and i wish i'd been reassured that it wasnt all over for me a long time ago.
i'm not suggesting anyone should be maverick about this condition, and i've posted several times on other threads warning people about headphones and tinnitus, so please dont think i'm just being ignorant.
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steevio wrote: many illnesses have a large psychological element, and half the battle is in your head.
I agree!
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Post by ec50 »

bashing the hell out of your ears repeatedly with excessively loud music without protection isn't psychological...

being aware of it and dealing with it appropriately is...

good to see this topic being addressed here - damage to your ears is more common than a lot of people (including djs/producers) are aware of...

I cannot imagine ruining future pleasure from my ears... must be one of my worst nightmares
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ec50 wrote:
I cannot imagine ruining future pleasure from my ears... must be one of my worst nightmares
it is my worst nightmare !
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Post by theory »

my worst nightmare to...
did u guys ever tried to test your hearing frequency range? for my disappointment i hear from 20Hz to 17 and something kHz , the rest is history for me :(
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Hyperacusis

Post by twistedcity »

Hello,

I'm the guy who wrote the blog about hyperacusis at http://chrissingletonmusic.blogspot.com ... ed-up.html

Interesting to hear about other people with similar problems.

I would just stress that I DO use earplugs at gigs or situations when I'm going to be exposed to very loud music; however, these are special musicians' earplugs (they cost about £125!). The point I was making was that wearing earplugs in everyday situations - walking down streets, getting on buses etc. - is generally considered not to be a great idea by hearing therapists, as when you take them out the world seems louder still, and your ears don't get used to normal levels of sound.

I'd also add that I'm not a hearing professional; but it is definitely possible to develop a fear of or aversion to everyday noise, and thankfully, from my experiences at least, it's possible to beat it. The hard part was finding out what the problem was - I had to go to lots of consultants before I found one who knew about the condition (and how to treat it properly).

I'd direct anybody who's interested in this topic to http://www.rnid.org.uk/information_reso ... acusis.htm - this is a factsheet made by a very well-respected and authoratitive organisation, the RNID (Royal National Institute for the Deaf). They're the UK's leading charity for the deaf and/or people with hearing difficulties.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,
Chris
PS Those of you who aren't suffering from hyperacusis (!) might like to download my record - giving it away as a free download at http://www.singletonmusic.com/freealbum2/ for a short while. Enjoy!
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