clubfoot wrote:steevio wrote:i just see quantizing as another useful tool in the box, iterative and groove quantizing can save you lots of time in roughing out a tune, i never stick to it anyway, its just sometimes useful to test out patterns to see if they work together.
snapping to a 192 grid is quantizing.
a little quantizing can really help sharpen up your beats, maybe theres confusion over what exactly quantizing is. it can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be.
agreed. i knew i contradicted myself in my earlier post. i guess we have to say that all programmed sequences of beats are quantized. it's the nature of the technology. i was really just thinking about the psychological approach.
simple as it sounds, can you just explain what you mean by 'quantizing sharpens up beats'. i understand that differently-quantized patterns will result in a different groove, for the better or the worse (or sharper/blunter). But all we're doing then is changing the timing / time interval between notes. For me, that's another way of rewriting your rhythm part. Shouldn't people be learning more about music theory so they can be more intuitive rather than using prepared patterns? Hmmm, then again; do we want to be drummers or techno producers...?
i'm not really explaining myself well,
when i write patterns, i write them individually, so that they work as rhythms on their own, now when i put them together, theres inevitably going to be some places where they dont quite gell, some times thats nice and makes for something funky, other times it's better that two notes fall exactly together or it sounds messy, each tune is different, and if you've got quite a few diffrent patterns going, especially in different time siganatures, theres always going to be places where quantising the notes together will tidy everything up.
so for instance if a make a groove template out of the hihats, it might be good to quantize some other percussion sounds to it, others might sound better creating a flam with them,
or if i make another template from the bass, it might be tidier if a lowtom or something is quantized to it, or you lose the attack on the tom, etc etc etc theres millions of uses for it. i'm not talking about prepared patterns, i'm talking about cross referencing the patterns within a tune.
i just think its wrong to say quantizing is sh!t, it's a totally legitimate tool to use in production.
i am a drummer as well as a techno producer, and i'm glad to be both.
as techno heads we can learn alot from drumming, as well as playing in your own patterns.
