how much percent 'swing' is best in cubase4 for house

mpc · Post by **mpc** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:46 am

What are youre quantize settings if you make music?

mlexicon · Post by **mlexicon** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:02 am

this is one of those no right answer things i think

Raddler · Post by **Raddler** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:01 am

mpc · Post by **mpc** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:09 pm

mlexicon wrote:this is one of those no right answer things i think

So you swich from setting each track?

Stomper · Post by **Stomper** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:03 pm

mpc wrote:
mlexicon wrote:this is one of those no right answer things i think
So you swich from setting each track?

I dont, but its percentages, so the amount of times i will quantize will change each time. sometimes only one note or small group of notes.
its also depends on how 'off' the player is.

But use it only if you're hearing the note off the beat. if its only one note, you can even fix it manually.

Roqqert · Post by **Roqqert** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:13 pm

mostly every channel in my tracks have different %'s swing.
In a overall track i always use different swings anytime. Would be boring to work with the same swing over and over again. Theres no good or bad.... Just try to get your drums groovy as possible. U can do it also without any swing

steevio · Post by **steevio** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:32 pm

i dont think ive ever used the same amount of shuffle (swing) on two tracks.
every track is different, and alot also depends on the tempo. you can add more swing on slower tracks.
i also use different amounts of swing on different elements within a track,

i use shuffle quantisation only as a rough guide to get a basic groove together, then move things around to get the groove right.

if you use polyrhythms, standard swing is often counterproductive, in say a 3 step pattern you might want to use a 3 way swing, in other words all three notes swinging in relation to each other. standard sequencer swings only really work in 4/4 in my experience.

and as Roqqert says, sometimes no swing is the best option, its too easy just to add swing to every track thinking it makes it funky, theres more to funk than swing, for instance one of the funkiest bass machines ever the TB303 has no swing whatsoever, the funk is achieved with slides, accents and envelope modulation.

hydrogen · Post by **hydrogen** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:51 pm

Raddler wrote:55%.

+1 to all the posts here. All are valid and have their place.

Use a combination of everything here.

+straight quantized for elements, everything lines up.
+Straight Shift for elements(Shift the entire track back or forward by a couple ms)
+Standard Quantized Grooves (MPC grooves)
+Human Quantized Groove (Grooves ripped from natural drummers)
+Turn off quantization. (Get your vibes into the music!)

To get the best swing imo... is to not use any quantization and get the swing from your emotional body playing those electronic instruments. You just can't beat human rhythms. Hank Shocklee(producer of public enemy) said this once in an interview(sorry I cannot recall).

I'm not sure if it was this one... but this interview is good.

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/vide ... __art_brut

For me when I play without quantization... its the best and most expressive way for me and the artists that I work with to get raw emotions into a song.

Don't think. Feel.