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London Police kill innocent man for being a "terrorist&

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And people say america went nuts after 9-11.
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Police: Brazilian shot not tied to bombs

Saturday, July 23, 2005; Posted: 5:07 p.m. EDT (21:07 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Police say the man they shot dead at a London Underground station was a Brazilian national "not connected" with this week's attempted bombings on the city's transit system.

London police identified the man as 27-year-old Jean Charles de Menezes.

"For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets," the police statement said Saturday.

During a news conference following Friday's shooting, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair said "this shooting is directly linked to the ongoing and expanding anti-terrorist operation."

Despite the apparent setback, Blair said Saturday he was pleased with the probe and the work that investigators are doing.

"I think the Metropolitan Police [are] performing absolutely outstandingly, and I'm very proud of them," he said.

De Menezes on Friday left a south London apartment building that had been under surveillance as part of the investigation into the attempted bombings Thursday.

Officers followed him to the Stockwell Underground station. The man's "clothing and suspicious behavior at the station added to their suspicions," a police statement said.

He challenged police and refused to obey orders before he was shot and killed Friday morning, Blair said Friday.

A witness to the shooting, Mark Whitby, said he was sitting on the train when "I heard a lot of shouting."

"I saw a chap run on to the train," Whitby said. "He was running so fast he half sort of tripped. He was being pursued by three guys. One had a black handgun in his hand."

"As he sort of went down, two of them sort of dropped on to him to hold him down, and the other one fired. I heard five shots."

Meanwhile, police said Saturday that a second suspect had been arrested in connection with the attempted bombings.

The man was arrested in Stockwell on Friday night by anti-terrorism officers, police said.

The first arrest came Friday in the same neighborhood.

Police said the two detained men, who have not been identified, were to be questioned Saturday.

The arrests came after police released images of four men caught on closed-circuit television at sites where and around the time the attacks were attempted.

On Saturday evening, police mounted an armed raid in South London near the Oval Underground station, where one of the attacks took place Thursday. Police said no arrests were made in the raid.

Friday's shooting is a rarity in London, where police generally are not armed except for special response units.

The latest attacks came two weeks to the day 52 people were killed in four bombings targeting the city's mass transit.

As in the July 7 attacks, three subway trains and a double-decker bus were attacked, but in Thursday's case, the four homemade bombs stuffed in backpacks only "partially detonated," said Assistant Police Commissioner Andy Hayman.

One person was wounded. (Full story)

Hayman said police searched three locations Friday, one in West London. Scotland Yard identified the area "in West Kilburn, W9." Police cordoned off part of Harrow Road in that area.

Images released
The first CCTV -- or closed circuit TV -- image released by police Friday showed a young man in a dark top that they said had "New York" written on it. He was apparently fleeing the Oval station, where a bomb was left on a train.

Hayman said the man had traveled there from the Stockwell station, one stop away. Police later found his shirt in an adjacent neighborhood, Brixton.

The second image showed a middle-aged man with a moustache wearing a gray T-shirt with a palm tree image on it and standing on the top deck of the No. 26 bus in Hackney, east London.

The third image shows a man leaving Warren Street Underground station in central London at 12:39 p.m. on Thursday. He was wearing dark clothes.

The fourth image showed a man at Westbourne Park Underground at 12:21 p.m. He later traveled west on the Hammersmith and City line to Shepherd's Bush underground, where he ran off. He was wearing a dark shirt and trousers, and was seen later wearing a white vest.

In other developments:

Police also arrested a man at a rail station in Birmingham on Friday. The Snow Hill station was evacuated and cordoned off, police said, and two suitcases were seized at the scene

An east London mosque on Whitechapel Road said it received a bomb threat Friday. The mosque was evacuated, while police checked the building. People were then allowed back inside.

The mother of Germaine Lindsay, one of the July 7 bombers, said she grieves for the victims. Maryam McLeod told reporters on the island of Grenada she is convinced, however, that he was not involved. (Full story
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ive heard some people getting upset at this, but what happens when someone pulls the same thing, and ends up getting away, into the subway and blows the sh!t up..??
1 person or 50 ppl..
cant have it both ways~

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not always a good thing when the worlds on lock down :?
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you can always shoot someone in the leg...
running doesn't mean that you did it
no excuse for this
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dsat wrote:you can always shoot someone in the leg...
running doesn't mean that you did it
no excuse for this
Exactly.. There can be tons of explanations to why he didn't stop. It's the wrong way to go, to shoot innocent people 8 times in the head...
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Re: London Police kill innocent man for being a "terror

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minimal house wrote:And people say america went nuts after 9-11.
and that's true!



the only thing that bothers me is 5 bullets, if you are on top of someone i think 1 shot should be sufficient for a trained police officer.
but.
this guy comes out of a building that was under surveillance because it was suspicious.
the guys wears a long warm coat, ridiculous in July.
he does NOT stop when they tell him too! i mean, if you haven't done something wrong, why run? how more suspicious can you make yourself?! (especially this week!! the pictures of the 4 bombers (the ones that didn't blow emself up) were on all the newspapers, which means that these guys have nothing to lose anymore, better blow up a bus asap than get caught by the police (at least that's how they think about it :s) so there is a new (temporary, i hope) law that makes that the police can shoot to kill when someone is not listening... this guy should have know better under these circumstances..

there is only one solution: get the hell out of irak asap!!
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Post by Jesse Somfay »

Violence sucks. We live in a world of many good people, but the few people who are misguided make it seem worse. The London police have the right to feel paranoid after what happened, but they should have handled it with much better care and done their job properly. Innocent until proven guilty is I believe what the law runs like in Britain (like here in Canada), so shooting a person who is just 'running' is illegal. Unless the police themselves are being threatened, they cannot shoot to kill.
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Jesse Somfay wrote: shooting a person who is just 'running' is illegal. Unless the police themselves are being threatened, they cannot shoot to kill.
aha...
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