turntables + ableton live set

brianc · Post by **brianc** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:39 pm

clairo wrote:Sure, the black boxes are berhinger , the red I don't know, but.... the blue box?
Do you know anything about it?

The red is a Waldorf MicroWave XT (credit to jpls). The blue box is an RME soundcard.

mut-ein wrote:What do you think its better Grabber or C-Loops

There's probably not much of a difference at all, beacuse they're pretty much the same thing. The Grabber is much easier to find and it's also newer, so perhaps it has some improvements over the C-Loops. I've got the Grabber, and it works very, very well. I have friends with C-Loops, and I've never noticed a difference.

Der geile Ami · Post by **Der geile Ami** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:24 pm

The guy that designed the cycloops for redsound now designs for peavey.

diefenwald · Post by **diefenwald** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:58 pm

so there is no way out ....... buying ;-)

Thx

zzebbirt · Post by **zzebbirt** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:08 am

mut-ein wrote:What do you think its better

Grabber or C-Loops

I may be mistaken but I think the grabber has the same bpm detecting software as the c-loops and the soundbyte has improved v2.0 software.....

zzebbirt · Post by **zzebbirt** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:14 am

I actually asked speedy j this last time he was sounchecking at a big party.....

He manually syncs ableton.....just with tapping. He also said that putting ableton on a midiclock makes it slower and less precise than running on ableton's own internal clock. So if you have a lot of schemes running it might not work properly. I asked him about Richie using a lever on his A&H mixers.....Speedy J told me he was beta testing a new A&H mixer with the lever, but for him it didn't work as well as manually tapping. He has 1 pc laptop running ableton and 1 powerbook running traktor. He said that even those would drift beacause the traktor clock runs a little bit faster.....so that means you are continually tapping, just like mixing with 2 turntables.

ruzz · Post by **ruzz** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:23 pm

My t3 project http://www.alwayst3.com used the looper + micro sync in our dj/computer set. The mico sync will spit out a midi clock but I found it to sync so so. In the end we scrapped the micro sync and just used the looper. If the display of the looper said 128.1 bmp I would set the software to 128.1 bmp. So basically we used the looper to tell us the tempo and manually sync'd the software.

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e/did\t · Post by **e/did\t** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:47 pm

i haven´t used my cycloops to sync any hardware yet but the timing of this machine is tight enough. i would think that you can use it to sync something
cheers

clairo · Post by **clairo** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:08 pm

Finally i have not buy the redsound micro sync,i have now 1laptop with ableton live (+vst),2 decks,1 mixer,and a bcr 2000 controller.
I listen on the decks and i tap on my laptop to give me the tempo (i must tap between 8 and 32 times to have a good estimated time), i adjust the tempo with a rotor from my bcr2000.
To adjust with a sufficient precision i have set the tempo gap in the ableton live between 120 and 133 (i usually work about 123-129 bpm), so i have a gap of 13bpm.
Now,i know that the midi signals are 128 for channel, so 13bpm/128 give me a precision of 0,1 bpm,a sufficient precision.
I have to work for now with the tapping cause is a little problematic, but is a practice problem..