ableton collab

zxcv · Post by **zxcv** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:35 am

Hi
im now producing music for at least 4 years
first on reason for a year and now on ableton
for me it is very hard to finish a whole damn song
i always make loops and then i delete it
so im looking for a partner to get the drive to finish a song
i got off from work till next year so i got plenty of time
let me know

Roy Koch · Post by **Roy Koch** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:38 am

What kind of music are you into?^^

zxcv · Post by **zxcv** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:18 pm

im open to alot of different styles of music
recently im listening alot to
Lucien–N–Luciano- Blind Behaviour
Some Raresh/ Villalobos / Zip dj sets
Shackleton- 3 ep

BigPoe · Post by **BigPoe** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:40 pm

I've heard about this problem and experienced it personally. I wonder if it's worse in ableton because of the loop view window

In the same way that you have to learn how to make a good loop, or produce something well, you have to learn how to make a good composition... study, experiment and practice. But doing this with someone else sounds like a good plan!

miro pajic · Post by **miro pajic** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:27 pm

all a matter of making "decisions" without being stuck playing around!

have a goal in your mind and don't lose it...that's all.

tone-def · Post by **tone-def** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:13 pm

what's happening is your making some loops then leaving it. when you work on a track you need to get a structure planned out before you save > close > go pub. so when you come back to it in 2 days time it's just a matter of filling in the gaps.

also if you want to collaborate over the internet it's better to do it with someone with a different set ups. both using ableton isn't going to work as we all use different plug ins anyway. best way to work like that is someone makes a load of loops and then send those over to the other guy and let him make a track out of it with whatever he wants. then he sends the track back for approval and the loop guy can say if anything else needs doing.

hydrogen · Post by **hydrogen** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:27 pm

miro pajic wrote:all a matter of making "decisions" without being stuck playing around!

have a goal in your mind and don't lose it...that's all.

+9000. The only thing a partner will do is slow you down on the decision making process. on the plus side you might be making more "educated decisions" because both of your combined experience.

zxcv · Post by **zxcv** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:29 pm

thanks for all the advices
it is not only to finish some song
i think it is also mad fun to create something with someone else
and see other producing techniques
i never did a collab but i think a collab with someone with the same daw would be easier because the arrangement otherwise one person only needs to make the whole song