Vinyl only?

[patrick bateman]

Vinyl only DJ's buying the top 20 tracks from Decks.de, are they better than the digital DJ buying top 20 fra Beatport? That's what he asked, and it is of course a very valid point.

i never met somebody who does that, a vinyl costs 7-12 Euro. you dont just take anything.
but beatport is a whole other deal, only 1,30 a track and if you wait a bit 20% less. so show me one vinyl dj who plays some chart hits, and i show you 100 digital DJs who play the same
its not about the format, its about the people behind it.

and if you make something really cheap, then you get many people who are buying.

Of course, that's true, but it doesn't change that it also happens within the vinyl domain, that was my point.

I agree that there are tons of kids/wannabes that download illegal, rip from soundcloud/youtube, buy the top 100 on Beatport etc etc, but why are we at all talking about them, do they at all matter?
I mean, we're not talking about the average Joe from country side, who buys the top 20 of Decks either. And of course there are a lot of the same kind of kids who buy the vinyl charts, as there are within digital, but true, not as many, but that's obvious, no?

[Themis]

yeah you are right, i dont want to pretend that i have some logic explanation why i dont like digital.

i dont know why, but if i see these apple laptops and people pushing knobs on there controllers i really get aggressive.
its just like that.

[patrick bateman]

yeah you are right, i dont want to pretend that i have some logic explanation why i dont like digital.

i dont know why, but if i see this apple laptops and people pushing knobs on there controllers i really get aggressive.
its just like that.

That's fair

[Marcus Stork]

yeah you are right, i dont want to pretend that i have some logic explanation why i dont like digital.

i dont know why, but if i see these apple laptops and people pushing knobs on there controllers i really get aggressive.
its just like that.

You might need some treatment for that!

[trak660]

I've bought more than a few digital re-releases of pre-2006 music that sound better than the original vinyl.

[djshiva]

I could give a poop how a mix is made, as long as it's good. Composition and intent have always been more important to me than medium, and no one's getting a bozo cookie because they made it with just vinyl. At least not from me.

It's a promotional gimmick, and a snoozeworthy one at that.

Tell me the mix will change my life. Tell me it will make me think of ________ genre in a whole new way. Tell me it will make me shake my azz in my car and drive too fast. Tell me it will get me laid. Tell me it will solve world hunger. Tell me it will give me clear skin and perfect teeth. I don't have to believe your hyperbole, but for frak's sake at least try harder than "It's all vinyl."

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

World class chefs don't advertise what friggin' cookware they used when making your meal.

this is just wrong in so many ways.. vinyl sets sound very different compared to digital sets because of the tracks being played.. if you limit yourself to digital, the pool of music you are searchin in is another compared to people who search for vinyl.. playing digital you will mostly shop around on beatport and you'll almost never buy music made before 2006..

i know this is not a general fact.. of course it is possible to make vinyl rips of old old stuff and play it with traktor, but let's be honest who doest that?? but even so the pool where you search for music would still be a different one..

so your example with the cook is actually really bad.. it's not about the cookware, it's more about the ingredients.. you either buy new stuff in the mall every day, or you are creating meals which consist of new stuff mixed with ancient, rare, legendary and sometimes therefore expensive ingredients which have been sealed, hidden and saved from harm over many years

so playing vinyl is aswell as playing digital nothing close to a promotional gimmick.. it's a pretty different approach which results in different sound characteristics..

and in addition this is not something you conclude with "some like to do it this way and others like to do it that way, everyone is an artist and does his thing" cause dj'ing has always been and will always be a competitive thing and that didn't change only because some genres went mainstream during the last years.. and you now mostly see people on parties who wouldn't even recognize if a mixtape is being played the whole night.. there are still people who care and compare and this is imo what ensures development just like "survival of the fittest" does in our nature..

Way to completely miss my point. But thanks for playing!

[trak660]

I could give a poop how a mix is made, as long as it's good. Composition and intent have always been more important to me than medium, and no one's getting a bozo cookie because they made it with just vinyl. At least not from me.

It's a promotional gimmick, and a snoozeworthy one at that.

Tell me the mix will change my life. Tell me it will make me think of ________ genre in a whole new way. Tell me it will make me shake my azz in my car and drive too fast. Tell me it will get me laid. Tell me it will solve world hunger. Tell me it will give me clear skin and perfect teeth. I don't have to believe your hyperbole, but for frak's sake at least try harder than "It's all vinyl."

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

World class chefs don't advertise what friggin' cookware they used when making your meal.

this is just wrong in so many ways.. vinyl sets sound very different compared to digital sets because of the tracks being played.. if you limit yourself to digital, the pool of music you are searchin in is another compared to people who search for vinyl.. playing digital you will mostly shop around on beatport and you'll almost never buy music made before 2006..

i know this is not a general fact.. of course it is possible to make vinyl rips of old old stuff and play it with traktor, but let's be honest who doest that?? but even so the pool where you search for music would still be a different one..

so your example with the cook is actually really bad.. it's not about the cookware, it's more about the ingredients.. you either buy new stuff in the mall every day, or you are creating meals which consist of new stuff mixed with ancient, rare, legendary and sometimes therefore expensive ingredients which have been sealed, hidden and saved from harm over many years

so playing vinyl is aswell as playing digital nothing close to a promotional gimmick.. it's a pretty different approach which results in different sound characteristics..

and in addition this is not something you conclude with "some like to do it this way and others like to do it that way, everyone is an artist and does his thing" cause dj'ing has always been and will always be a competitive thing and that didn't change only because some genres went mainstream during the last years.. and you now mostly see people on parties who wouldn't even recognize if a mixtape is being played the whole night.. there are still people who care and compare and this is imo what ensures development just like "survival of the fittest" does in our nature..

Way to completely miss my point. But thanks for playing!

He's been beat matching since before you probably knew what a record was!

[djshiva]

my blah blah blah

someone else's blah blah blah

Way to completely blah blah blah. But thanks for blah!

He's been beat matching since before you probably knew what a record was!

*inside joke snortlaugh*