miniKAT wrote:
Djs and Acts like Luciano, Loco Dice and all that trash bring in hipster trash that doesnt know their a$$ from their elbow and are just there because its the new cool thing, minimal. And those guys arent even minimal, they play tech house. I think that the new hip sound, no? A little tech house with a sprinkle of detroit. Is that it? I dont know? I dont wanna spew anymore hate. Theres no scene, this aint the 90's. At least not in NYC.
I wrote this on another forum, but think it applies just as much as a response to you.
Sure, you may get an influx of people who are just in it for the trend - and a large chunk of them will jump ship when the next trend rolls along. But, inside of that influx of people you get
- people who do have a genuine interest in the music
- people who may have been trend hoppers, but developed a genuine interest in the music
It also creates an active scene that attracts new people to it who are going out for a good time / listen to music / find something new and can create 'converts'
and, once all the trend-hoppers move onto the next thing, it leaves behind the people who do have a love for the music and injects some fresh blood into the scene to help keep it going.
So, what you're saying in the below:
I bought my first minimal record around 97. I think it was Dj Slip. I heard Landstrumm play his own style of Minimal back in 96 I think. I got into it then and I'm still into it (well, some of it). Thats more than I can say for the passers by, who are on to the next cool sht like urself. Im pretty loyal to the artists and music i listen to.
Is that unless you were into minimal in the late 90s, you have no business being into minimal now?
Some times the opinions on this forum really make me think "wtf? this is what's wrong with the scene"
You bitch that people don't innovate and just re-hash the current trends, but when they do innovate - you bitch. If they revisit 'old' trends (mid/early 90s minimal) its "paying tribute" - but to me, that's simply re-hashing even older ideas - and isn't much better than re-hashing the current trends.
Seems like allot of posters here have a streak of jealousy in them because they are DJing/producing and haven't lucked out enough to make it big in the scene.
Sure, even if you have the talent, the skill and the know-how to be a great DJ/Producer, there is an element of luck and knowing the right people. But know what?
it's the same regardless of what industry your working in.
Doesn't matter if your working as a programmer or a manager - there is an element of luck and "knowing the right people at the right time" to making advancements in your career - it's a fact of business, and yes - if you want to make a living as an artist - art is a business, and that's just part of the game you need to play to be sucesfull.
If you don't want to play that game - then do what you do, but don't get pissy when you don't get the amount of success you want for it if you're not willing to put in that extra effort, just be happy with the satisfaction of doing what you love.