haters.

dsat · Post by **dsat** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:33 pm

haters...

well, i'm sure many people are fed up with the hype surrounding the minimal stuff

what makes it ridiculous is the fact that people claim it's the next best thing while it was already there around 10 years ago
i also think the whole minimal hype is a bit overkill and only exists for commercial reasons (like any other hype)... i'm actually sick of the hype... i think that would explain part of the criticism towards the minimal scene

as for haters... well, the music bizz is simply full of jealous and arrogant people, who like to discredit anything because of jealousy
also fame causes jealousy as well
big names are generally regarded as arrogant pricks and get a lot of criticism just because they're famous... you wouldn't believe how much bullshit you get from people who are jealous

as for derrick may, he's done some amazing stuff...
but he has an ego problem, in fact many US artists have...
it's not because someone makes good music he's necessarily a cool person
and the opposite...

Jesse Somfay · Post by **Jesse Somfay** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:05 pm

Every little scene has their narrow minded haters and geeks.

They're entitled to their opinion, but my god, some people are just naive little children. "My way or the highway" as it were.

I dislike that attitude, but the truth is, there will always be haters in our lifetimes. There is no reason to take them seriously anyhow.

I'm not part of any particular scene, and I see that, everywhere I look, there are immature little brats hidden amongst the people who are not hating.

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:59 pm

Jesse Somfay wrote:Every little scene has their narrow minded haters and geeks.

it's just a common way of saying... hey, i can't do sh!t and i envy you for making a success in something you believe in.

partially they hate beacause of the lack of belief in themselves and what they do, partially cos of the fame cos they think only about making them good.

it might not have complete sence, but it's true.

Torque · Post by **Torque** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:38 pm

plaster wrote:
it's odd how we percieve minimal music so energetic, yet other listeners seem to find it weak.

It's not that odd when you think about it. Electronic music is already waaaaay far off the map for most people. Then minimal has taken it even farther off the map and stripped it down making it even less recognisable. I'm not a huge fan of minimal infact i like some of it but overall there is alot more i dislike. To me minimal overall does not sound particularly energetic. To me most of it sounds super laid back and make good tracks to bring the set back down and give people a second to breathe before you lay the fire to 'em again.

zentex · Post by **zentex** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:52 pm

yeah. one of the funniest comments i've come across was "that is music to stare at wall"

shypht · Post by **shypht** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:03 am

Rich wrote:I've never seen him, but I've heard that he has a huge ego and an unusual skill for emptying a dancefloor....

I disagree. I heard him back in Dec, and it rocked it - couldnt peel myself away from the dancefloor even if I tried.

But, I find alot of people accuse minimal as being 'trendy'. If minimal was as big and trendy as people say it is - where the hell are the minimal parties? I'd LOVE it if it was bigger than it is right now, as then maybe I'd be able to go out to a descent venue, with a good crowd and alot of people up and dancing. But house, trance, top-40 and hard/banging-techno are the only things that ever seem to get any kind of attention over here.

Not a small venue with 10 people and nobody dancing.

I think the internet is creating alot of false hype for it. Yes, minimal is great - I love it, but I dont think its as big and trendy as people say it is.

About the only time you'll see a big turnout for a minimal party here, is if Hawtin is on the flyer.

adhesif · Post by **adhesif** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:05 pm

accdntly wrote:even in a general techno "community" ive read, heard, received sarcasm and slander regarding minimal/micro music. much from hardware purists, banging techno and detroit enthusiasts. ive heard our music refered to as pretentious, wine and cheese, boring, fashionable etc. seems that many of the same people who disregard our sound also criticize production techniques and technology. has anyone come across this on other message boards or conversation?

this is funny !

put it this way accdntly, theres nothing wrong with criticism!
arnt we all music critics in a way?

Torque · Post by **Torque** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:37 pm

There are haters from every direction. Minimal is no more hated on than anyone else really. fck haters in general.

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