How do you arrange ? MIDI or AUDIO ? Both ?

revy · Post by **revy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:20 pm

i usually arrange midi in reason, rewire to ableton and record to audio loops with fx running (save on ram later), or record audio loops from other sources...

i think midi or audio both have their + -

perhaps midi could be easier to make rhythm variations, or tricky automations, but with audio i also like to slice up soundwaves or mess with timestretch fx

Alphajuno · Post by **Alphajuno** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:21 pm

Usually write in MIDI until my PC gives up.

Then i start bouncing stuff down. Once im happy with the arrangement, render every track. Then start working on Edits i can only do in the audio domain.

Then render everything out again, and mix in Reaper.

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:31 pm

Kilevox wrote:all in MIDI ?

VST's and EFX are the horror for the CPU!

@ plaster

when you have a lot of VST's and EFX, this takes a lot of RAM, too !
Or not ??

that's why i never use effects, only a reverb here and there.

Kilevox · Post by **Kilevox** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:37 pm

plaster wrote:
Kilevox wrote:all in MIDI ?

VST's and EFX are the horror for the CPU!

@ plaster

when you have a lot of VST's and EFX, this takes a lot of RAM, too !
Or not ??
that's why i never use effects, only a reverb here and there.

no EFX ???

That's unbelievable!

Farabee · Post by **Farabee** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:15 am

I just use ableton impulse for most drums, and vsts for melodies and some other stuff. Unless it's a specific effect you can't get any way else, Ableton's built-in effects are pretty expressive and CPU-friendly.

codecks · Post by **codecks** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:45 am

torq seems to be a beast, didn't hear from it before. very impressive.

edit: this was supposed to be posted in another thread

steevio · Post by **steevio** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:41 pm

all midi,
but i only use hardware, so the hungry effects issue doesnt come into the equation.
all i do with audio is edit whatever ive recorded live, but i practice the tunes till i'm confident i'll get a good live recording, so i wont need to do much, if any editing later, or if i feel theres something missing i might layer some more audio in, but i prefer to keep that to a minimum.
because i'm not using software synths etc, i can get away with older programs for sequencing such as VST which are more midi friendly, or even fire up my dusty atari and run cubase 2 from a floppy for a laugh.

hydrogen · Post by **hydrogen** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:18 pm

revy wrote:i usually arrange midi in reason, rewire to ableton and record to audio loops with fx running (save on ram later), or record audio loops from other sources...

i think midi or audio both have their + -

perhaps midi could be easier to make rhythm variations, or tricky automations, but with audio i also like to slice up soundwaves or mess with timestretch fx

This is definitely the workflow of choice. There are advantages to doing both. I used to be all about midi because I wanted the oppourtunity to be able to do a live performance that is all midi based. But I see too many advantages to creating loops and resampling them and re-seq the wavforms.

At the end of the day you'll want your daw to support both. Live makes it really easy to re-sample parts into small chunks.