Kick And Bass

milc · Post by **milc** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:50 pm

get a piece of Jomox Xbase 09.
you won't need 909!!

actually......i'm selling it....hehe...

pm me if you're interested. i'll do a mnml special price for ya!!

(and i don't sell it becuz it's bad!!!!! :evil: i just don't want to be homeless)

what a jerk i am....

532nm · Post by **532nm** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:29 pm

in my searches for a sidechain compressor i found this...

http://www.twistedlemon.nl/site/index.p ... &Itemid=32

i'ts a sidechain emulator that actually works pretty well. you'll have to experiment with it before you get comfortable with it.

basically, you load one instance on your kick and bypass the effect

then load another on anything you want ducked. and tweak the effect

its free too!

fredrik_h · Post by **fredrik_h** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:33 pm

of curiosity, how many of you apply the 0db kick rule?

milc · Post by **milc** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:42 pm

fredrik_h wrote:of curiosity, how many of you apply the 0db kick rule?

what the hell is that?

fredrik_h · Post by **fredrik_h** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:51 pm

milc wrote:
fredrik_h wrote:of curiosity, how many of you apply the 0db kick rule?
what the hell is that?

some people states that you (because of mathematical vs. audio reasons in some way) should keep your bassdrums at 0db. this is more of a commerical-music thing maybe, I don't know.

spyromus · Post by **spyromus** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:39 pm

fredrik_h wrote: some people states that you (because of mathematical vs. audio reasons in some way) should keep your bassdrums at 0db. this is more of a commerical-music thing maybe, I don't know.

Sounds like nonsense to me (not to offend anyone). It's very limited way to look at things, IMO. I've heard many tracks with no kicks at all, as well as many with clicks instead of kicks (which is quite common among mnml techno and micro house tracks), which in turn makes me think this rule or better guideline isn't quite applicable.

By and large, it sounds as an artificial limitation of the dynamic range, which is a bad thing for experimental music, however serves well for pumping dance floor stuff with maximized loudness. Again, nothing against it.

Well, at least I don't do it... So "negative" here.

thom · Post by **thom** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:11 pm

Yeah... sounds like a rule for hip-hoppers to get the maximum boom from car systems... wich would makes sense in a way...

About that kick and bass problem...
I'm currently building a reaktor ensembles that enables you to generate the kick and a bassline using one single oscillator... meaning everything remains in perfect phase. Alongside with fm modulators to get different bass tones...

I'll post it when I'll be done... almost there.

Torque · Post by **Torque** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:13 pm

Did you ever consider that it's your overall eq of the track that is making the low end muddy? what kind of room are you mixing in? do you have low ceilings? Maybe you havn't dialed in the room correctly.