gan_on wrote:the heart and soul of vinyl...
digital files does not have physical form, a vinyl record has...and things without physical form carries no soul...in my opinion.
Come on...It's all compressed air!
So you put no value on an voice? Because that too has no physical form, but like mp3s, it has something to project it, and will sound like vinyl in a club
Basically that sounds a little bit like a trainspotting collector's way to think about music. If you want music, most people will first look at their options on how to get it, and then make a decision on what is best for the music, some people only want to listen to the music on their headphones on the bus, some want to spin it at a club, some will want to tour with it, some won't have Serato Live or whatever and need vinyl, but to say one is inherrently better than the other is blind to what the main thing is here: getting people to listen to good music. If you are into music soley because you want it to be 'exclusive' etc. then you obviously have no idea what soul is in the slightest!!!
If you want to collect the cover art etc then cool, but that has no bearing here, you just buy the record, it's completely different. One is purchasing the music&record&artwork, and one is purchasing the music.
I love vinyl, but for places outside of central Europe, Tokyo, the UK, and parts of the US and Canada, there's NO fucking way that everyone can afford vinyl these days, you guys keep talking like the price structure of Beatport was made for you, stop being so self-absorbed, Beatport know that their service is global, and that they are gaining a lot more customers all the time from these outlying zones and will continue to do so than the scenes where you have the OPTION to buy vinyl, when most other places have little or no option.
Beatport full releases are still considerably cheaper than geting import 12"s or CDs in many places in the world.
And as for Kompakt - everyone should remember what they are. They are a vinyl distribution company that now also sells Mp3s. They do a lot of P&D deals, and have a lot of labels that they work with closely. They would normally pay less themselves for a release I'd wager than beatport, especially since they own a bunch of the labels outright, so they can pass that saving onto the customer. And they have a lot more leverage with these labels, since many are tied in with the distribution anyhow.
Plus it takes fucking ages to browse Kompakt, sure looks nice and pretty, but any web designer I know could have designed a better browsing architecture. Beatport probably has spent a lot more on development, way more money on marketing etc. and to be honest, they do a fantastic job of brining good quality 'underground' or cutting edge labels to the masses, way more than any other website because of how they will place a Pallette track next to a Defected release. This alone is a good thing.
Bn1 wrote:clicking on an mp3 doesn't require the same amount of investment or effort or give the same amount of enjoyment imo.
Huh? SO the audience dislikes hearing the same song in mp3 format?
They won't get teh same enjoyment?
Or are you talking about your enjoyment of listening to the music?
I guess you're talking about PLAYING the music to yourself, because from most performers points of view, dropping a track off vinyl is awesome, but so is dropping it from Serato Scratch Live or FS or whatever, the rush is the same to the dancefloor, and the performance is almost the same from the djs point of view, it's just different when you're at home listeing to music, which shouldn't be a problem when we are talking about dance music...?
And while on the topic of lastibility - most dance music has very little lastability for djs who have developing taste. I'd say less than 1% of tracks a working DJ buys ever keep over a few years anyhow. So cool, buy vinyl for the tracks that will keep working, but that shouldn't dictate your buying for music you might only play 2-5 times ever.
It's all a choice, and we are looking at 2 major online stores, and a few that are cool, but have very limited new releases each week (that you can't get on beatport or kompakt). Most people I know only use beatport or kompakt (and with kompakt a lot less than they would if it was designed more efficiently) and it's partly because it's easy to stay in 1 or 2 places for music purchasing. There's too much crap around these days, and at least someone is filtering things. There's still hundreds of cool labels I'd like to see on beatport etc. but they're gaining pretty fast.
One thing I'd like to see, is an 'ignore' function on beatport, so you can ignore those shite labels that you hate with a passion, that way you cna then concentrate on looking closer at the more obscure stuff too...
er. that was completely off point.
and anyone from Kompakt wanting free web architecture advice, flick me a message
r.i.
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