dude dont stress, from your writing you are obviously talented and passionate.oblioblioblio wrote:i don't think my age is relevant.Brankis wrote:
no offense but this is a very immature response, im guessing you are probably a bit young
its cool to be all idealistic about art but to say "scale theory is bullshit" is a pointless statement. music theory and scales are not exactly the same thing you know. scales are beautiful beacons of solid mathematics that are a blueprint for your harmonic structure. there are a million different scales but those perfect intervals are always present and that's the magic.
how you use this is up to you and this is where i agree that classical theory is not so much important. but to ignore harmonic structure is a very amateurish way to look at it
the point being with electronic music you could write in the same key your whole life and the tracks could sound completely different because of the timbres. that's where the creative part comes in finding the interesting timbres to utilize the harmonic structure of the scale to its fullest, most blissful potential...
it is a very dangerous illusion some people have that techno is somehow any different than other "real" music... we are not that special im sorry
yes the post was perhaps a little edging onto shock value side, but I mean everything that I say and have experiences to justify it.
the mathematics of musical interactions... yes I have no reason to dislike that. it's fascinating and applyable and deep.
but as far as the classical theory goes... i dunno. I haven't really given it enough time to really back up everything I say... but to my mind it offers more traps than springboards, creatively speaking.
It has no method for representing scales outside of a narrow set of quite poorly chosen intervals. (ok some of the big obvious small number ones are great... but imo it sounds really crappy on the more 'complex' intervals.)
It has no method for considering the tonality in atonality as far as I'm aware. Always seemed kinda 'true' or 'false'.
Ahh I dunno... i've got to that point of just defending myself and my points of view which doesn't really help anything. I think one day I might delve a little depper into some theory (and of course ignore all the shite parts). But right now I've been having so much more success from listening to how intervals sound and working with tonal movements just from thinking about shapes... rather than verbal assignments and paint by numbers interactions.
To each his own I guess.
(edit) I should apologise a little for being a little too drastic with my words. Instead of 'scale theory is bullshit', i should say that I think scale theory can be dangerous. Its the same as my views on religion... there can be some great material, but it can be dangerous to get sucked too far in and use someone elses system of belief instead of relying on finding your own way. Western classical theory has a very narrow scope I feel, and I think that it can be very important to remember that it's not the only way to express yourself musically, and not the only way of representing musical information.
think of it like the blueprints for a building. you can make the most innovative looking building ever but the building still needs to stand up straight!! its a structure thing, you can go as far out of the box as you want