Beatport tax?

[PsyTox]

Psytox; if the artist releasing isn't registered to a collecting society, you don't have to pay (and Beatport hopefully make their system right so this won't be the case).
If you have artists where your label have paid to a collection society and they still haven't received anything after 2 years, I would suggest that the artists involved contact their collecting society with prove of the labels payment and demand to get their money, because otherwise anything else would

the way i heared it from BP, they will deduct mechanical rights NO MATTER IF you are registered. And after checking this, they will give the deducted money back. Still, that means that part of your money is gone for a certain time and knowing Sabam in Belgium, this could easily take a year before they bother to let beatport know that artist a or b isn't registered. Hell, as I said: we even had to pay for repro rights while the artist wasn't registered... without the paper of the payment, the pressing plant didn't want to press records. So there you go... that's fucking blackmail if you ask me.

Btw going to another store isn't the solution, because the others will have to do this too. Or already have taxes included. And no store has the same content as BP, no matter how you look at it. to give you a simple idea of how important BP is: we used to work with a distributor who made our music available on +100 sites. When we started the second label, we went directly to a number of sites so we could see how much we sold where... If we sold 100 mp3's, 98 came from BP, 1 from junodownload and 1 from where ever

[patrick bateman]

Psytox; if the artist releasing isn't registered to a collecting society, you don't have to pay (and Beatport hopefully make their system right so this won't be the case).
If you have artists where your label have paid to a collection society and they still haven't received anything after 2 years, I would suggest that the artists involved contact their collecting society with prove of the labels payment and demand to get their money, because otherwise anything else would

the way i heared it from BP, they will deduct mechanical rights NO MATTER IF you are registered. And after checking this, they will give the deducted money back. Still, that means that part of your money is gone for a certain time and knowing Sabam in Belgium, this could easily take a year before they bother to let beatport know that artist a or b isn't registered. Hell, as I said: we even had to pay for repro rights while the artist wasn't registered... without the paper of the payment, the pressing plant didn't want to press records. So there you go... that's fucking blackmail if you ask me.

Btw going to another store isn't the solution, because the others will have to do this too. Or already have taxes included. And no store has the same content as BP, no matter how you look at it. to give you a simple idea of how important BP is: we used to work with a distributor who made our music available on +100 sites. When we started the second label, we went directly to a number of sites so we could see how much we sold where... If we sold 100 mp3's, 98 came from BP, 1 from junodownload and 1 from where ever

I know all that, I have a label too
But if your artist isn't registrered with a collecting society then you shouldn't pay (only a small fee) and still be able to press the records. We do that in Germany and it works like a charm.

[PsyTox]

I know you know

And yes, in theory it should also be like you have in germany, but in belgium... Sabam pretty much does what it pleases. They are being investigated for fraud, and even simply refuse to give their members (and even the government) insight in how they calculate the rights for the artists... I mean, hello...

There must be a country where there are no collection agencies right? We'll move there

[patrick bateman]

I know you know

And yes, in theory it should also be like you have in germany, but in belgium... Sabam pretty much does what it pleases. They are being investigated for fraud, and even simply refuse to give their members (and even the government) insight in how they calculate the rights for the artists... I mean, hello...

There must be a country where there are no collection agencies right? We'll move there

Press your stuff in Germany instead, or France.

[camus]

Press your stuff in Germany instead, or France.

You're kidding man ! In france there is a thing called the SACEM , they're are
the fascits of right collection.

Further more , paying mechanical rights for pressing is mandatory in France , even if you"re not in the SACEM.

[patrick bateman]

Press your stuff in Germany instead, or France.

You're kidding man ! In france there is a thing called the SACEM , they're are
the fascits of right collection.

Further more , paying mechanical rights for pressing is mandatory in France , even if you"re not in the SACEM.

we had our first 6 releases pressed at MPO in France, going through Handle With Care in Berlin, and therefore using GEMA in Germany, and of course we only had to pay for those artists that were registered. I can't believe you guys let these companies do this to you.

[PsyTox]

we get our stuff pressed outside of belgium, but doesn't matter, they still ask for paperwork of the collection agency, and since we are based in Belgium, we have to register with Sabam...

I have to start renting a mailbox address in germany I think

[patrick bateman]

we get our stuff pressed outside of belgium, but doesn't matter, they still ask for paperwork of the collection agency, and since we are based in Belgium, we have to register with Sabam...

I have to start renting a mailbox address in germany I think

We are from Denmark, pressed the first 6 releases in France, and used Gema in Germany (now we press in Germany also).