you don't make any sensemilc wrote:that's very right.jpls wrote:hm...i'm more interested in techno getting more innovative
and experimental. seems like that might help remove some
people so some of you could feel cool again.
very interesting posts here, i was enjoying reading different reflexions...
i think people blame m-nus shouldn't be blamed.
good label or not, good music or not (well, "good music" with 20 records sound the same), they certainely fucked around with "minimal" techno.
hawtin is considered as an "innovator" but using ableton and allen & heath doesn't mean to be innovative. it means just having money to afford it and speaking eglish to understand the manual.
wait a minute, there's people who truly experiment.
himself mentioned vynil doesn't interest him anymore 2 years ago, but it seems that "selling vynil" still interests him a lot.
i remember a m-nus party (of course, totally overcroweded) a year ago.
at that time, i found their "minimize to maximize" slogan pretty cool.
then i've got a flyer from that party says,
"minimize stress maximize fun".
"min2max" was about it??
people can dance to kylie minogue, if people go to club to dance to this kind of cold, and inexpressive music, that means they need something special. and if it's just about "minimize stress and maximize fun",
then i'm fucking off.
i'm from korea, where there's NOTHING. (5 years ago, at least)
when i heard some "underground" stuff and what "seems to be" going on in european electronic music scene, i was dreaming.
if i knew that it was that kind of bullshit that european people call "underground" i had to stay at home. "maximum fun" is in korea too with what they call "night club", the music is not very far form what we hear here.
i'm still hoping to see some real thing.
and i believe that it can still come sooner or later.
i feel that even in this forum,
there's many people who's sick of all like me.
someone posted DIY is only solution, i'm totally agree with it.
if everyone do their own thing without ugly intentions,
i'm 100% sure that there'll be something very soon.
i know that it's almost a crime to say this in this forum,
(maybe they'll kick me out!!)
fck m-nus and fck hawtin.
'sick of their "FUN".
do we need to go back underground?
I think a good balance should be maintained between a club/party's commercial motives and underground feel. Underground also means bad sound, smelly bathrooms, too many dopeheads, no security, warm beer and subject to police raids which is what I HATE!
So a little commerce and a little underground is not a bad thing in my oppinion.
So a little commerce and a little underground is not a bad thing in my oppinion.
sometimes i can't understand why so much analyse for past things (why we don't go back to underground, to techno, house? etc). or why people try to achieve an abstract situation or a case.
it's ok to chat and discuss about music, i like to be aberrant about so many things when you talk about music but why try to be the nostradamus of edm and not to enjoy whatever you like to listen or dance on it.
it's ok to chat and discuss about music, i like to be aberrant about so many things when you talk about music but why try to be the nostradamus of edm and not to enjoy whatever you like to listen or dance on it.
Music makes the people come together...
Re: do we need to go back underground?
that's just how I feel, too. And that's the reason why I don't visit this subforum. Boring and tendentious.pheek wrote: This board is somewhat a paradox to me. I was just discussing this with a friend, that most of the input and feedback we get in the label section is really confusing for me (us). Some releases I see there that people call a bomb, is most of the time, for me, extremely boring and some releases that get no feedback is often, to me, extremely interesting.
I won't ever stop buying all your weirdo records, Sirpheek wrote: But there's other ones who want the more underground stuff, the weirder music with a different aesthetic. But when we produce that stuff, we barely get support. I won't complain but It's very hard to find a balance here and to pick a direction. Maybe I should only produce for myself, but honestly, this would mean I'd probably need to go back with a job. I really want to avoid this.
"What is underground? Dig a fucking hole and stick your head in it."
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