Unreleased music being shared - politics

niQue · Post by **niQue** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:24 pm

people have lost the taste of keeping secrets
or never found it

diskotek · Post by **diskotek** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:31 am

patrick bateman wrote:
s.k. wrote:bring back vinyl as a solid standard. problem (and loads more) solved.
How would it solve the problem? You know it's pretty easy to copy a vinyl to mp3 right?

that's absolutely right, most of te tracks are ripped from vinyl's on p2p networks. by the way there is no difference between this promo or not promo recordings and released stuff.... the problem seem to be sharing in a illegal way...

by the way i would like ask to people who has releases and have bookings : ain't it good to be shared at slsk like p2p stuff and get well known (also had bookings around)... i'm not sure if tey earn so much from vinyl/cd sales.. or they would prefer to be well known & had much more booking with these illegal sharing stuff.

sorry i think this was not the subject.

pheek · Post by **pheek** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:54 pm

diskotek wrote: by the way i would like ask to people who has releases and have bookings : ain't it good to be shared at slsk like p2p stuff and get well known (also had bookings around)... i'm not sure if tey earn so much from vinyl/cd sales.. or they would prefer to be well known & had much more booking with these illegal sharing stuff.

The sharing stuff is good for artists for the bookings because people know about them and they get bigger crowds sometimes. That's probably the best thing. But the thing is, sales will drop and if the records don't sell, well the label will suffer and then the artist might not be paid. I can say we pay between 150 to 500 euros per releases, depending of sales. It's not much but its better than zero.

I can see a problem today with the unreleased material being shared. Kalimari 03-04 were on slsk before the record got out and the sales were really low compared to 01-02.

Is it linked?
Hard to say. We'll never know.

But when if your favorite label close because of financial debt, maybe you might regret it. Supporting your favorite artists and labels is a way of supporting musical diversity.

I also found tracks from Kalimari 07 on Slsk and I can say we cancelled that EP. Very bad for the artist who like to get to the 12" format, much more exciting than mp3.

frisfris · Post by **frisfris** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:51 pm

personally im not supporting anymore labels are leaked on web much time before the release date on vinyl.For give you an example Trapez and traum releases are on the web much time before the release date.Im not buying anymore releases from those labels.Why i should buy those vinyls when everyone can download it for free, ages before the release date, on every p2p?
Is impossible to stop p2p sharing but labels should take care about their promotion and give the promos out close to the release date.

winston · Post by **winston** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:15 pm

you are such a hero

patrick bateman · Post by **patrick bateman** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:11 am

winston wrote:you are such a hero

Who are you writing to?

winston · Post by **winston** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:27 pm

frisfris

patrick bateman · Post by **patrick bateman** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:19 pm

Why is FrisFris a hero?
I guess you don't mean it, but why are you being sarcastic, and could you back it up?