Sorry, this english is a bit strange. Do you mean at Tresor the club Hood was bigger? Sure I'd accept that, Surgeon, Ruskin, Pacou etc. were all probably bigger for sure. Tho it looked like Hawtin got pride of place in the closing partyidealstandard wrote:Sorry. I don't want to jump on you on this one, but no.
And I'm sorry but Robert Hood, for exemple, has always been way bigger in the Tresor back in the days.
However Tresor is a tiny tiny corner of the global techno market - and has been since the mid-late 90s, even tho it is an important chapter in techno histroy.
Nobody is debating skills or talent, as I've said many times in my post, we all have djs we'd put above hawtin, I doubt a single person here would put Hawtin at the top of their list, we all have our developed and specific taste.idealstandard wrote: But it's true, some djs were not as exposed. Which doesn't mean IMO that Hawtin is anyway better or whatever than them.
Not only am I not serious about that, but I didn't even say it!!!idealstandard wrote: And I'm really sorry again, but you cannot be serious when saying that the M series or Hard Wax crew or whoever else have anything to reward to Hawtin.
Read my post. I said that moritz's empire is more mainstream than any other part of the minimal spectrum if you talk about it from levels of sales and the placement in the global dance community's boxes. Their efforts in techno dub and minimal electronica have probably penetrated more record crates than any other group.
And I'll say it again - Hawtin is responsible for selling other people's records, making record labels and artists, breaking new things. It's a fact. We all see it. "Hawtin played it" suddenly the record sales go thru the roof. It happens with other artists to a degree, but like Jeff Mills in the past, there's certain artists that young etc. djs pay a LOT of attention to when they are hunting around for records. Not everyone has the luxury of having the time to listen to every record, which is why dj charts and playlists are very important for the scene. ESPECIALLY those djs who don't post charts, so when someone hears that dj blah blah is dropping something, then it feels like a inside scoop - however when Hawtin does it, there's a lot of focus. I can imagine that the sales of the records put on his new mixmag cd went up quite a bit.