How do you get your groove

[RichardLodge]

Just wanted to know how people get their tracks to groove.

Swing quantize? Moving elements backwards/forwards? Velocities?

Would be goo to get some opinions/tips on getting the best grooves.

[regler]

volume for each step and the envelopes from the sounds are imho the most important things.

[Casanova808]

Move to the south side of Chicago.

[AK]

I play keyboard anyways and I have a tendency to play in a swingy type manner naturally ( which is good and bad at times ) but by using Recycle, I have templates of my own playing and use them as a quantize function. If you are on about getting a groove going, that's a diff subject and that comes from jamming until something crops up with which you start to build on.

[Phurniture]

You might be interested in some of the info from this older thread:
http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=67750

[hydrogen]

you can also get good groove simply by adding a delay to your sound. if you don't have too much feedback you can even automate the timing on the delay to make it constantly evolve or make a pattern with the different timings. works great on highhats and percussions.

[steevio]

i think its all of the above and loads more besides.

how grooves work is increadibly complex, everything is involved, volume, velocities, note lengths, attack, decay, sustain and release of every component, syncopation, space, tempo, swing at all levels (16ths, 8ths, beats, bars), the tempo / swing relationship, amount of reverb on every component, ornamentation, grace notes, avoidance of over-compression, avoidance of rigidity (always putting emphasis on the beat /off-beat) etc etc etc....... and most of it is really subtle.

[Ingemar]

agree with steevio, but also I would like to point out silence. I find short bursts of silence to be the foundation of a groove, a constant sound is seldom groovy, and if it is, it has a good dynamic range