Kick drums in dubtechno

Esemdi · Post by **Esemdi** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:29 pm

MINIMALTECHNOHOUSE wrote:compression can muffle stuff too! remember that

Yeah, but it can also alter the overall sound of the track.

dubgil · Post by **dubgil** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:16 pm

thank you all for the input thus far - much appreciatted

dubgil · Post by **dubgil** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:17 pm

zongo wrote:I usually throw away the kick's attack. As cheaper said, no click involved.

I'm too lazy to create my kicks from scratch so I always use very basic samples from classic hardware, then I start the sample after the kick's attack and tweak the attack setting on the sampler on 30 ms or more. I often use layering so I use the same attack parameter on all the kick samples.

Here's an example in a track I'm working on. It's not finished yet (far from it, right now it's only a loop with no automation) but the kick is done : http://soundcloud.com/zzzzra/la-violence-pre-version

ha ha ha, I sent you a msg last week on the discogs forum, didn't realize you on this board too. I love yer stuff on bandcamp...

will kinsella · Post by **will kinsella** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:22 pm

cool discussion

Salomo · Post by **Salomo** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:03 am

i think its better to chase the kick that YOU think sounds good, instead of generalizing a quite diverse genre and looking for 1 particular kick of THE dubtechno (even with the *sometimes*) as a whole which is silly. i understand you fancy some kicks, just go with the flow and make them how you want them. first make a kick youre content with, EQ it well and dont compress it if not nescesary (atleast dont overdo or youll squeeze life out), first get it to sound perfectly within your gear/vst before adjusting it outside though, try increasing/decreasing attack and release (subtile changes might give you a 'muffled' effect as you describe).

Salomo · Post by **Salomo** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:32 am

MINIMALTECHNOHOUSE wrote:compression can muffle stuff too! remember that

its stupid really to compress without a very clear purpose, id say its more likely to kill your audio/instrumenttrack than to give the desired results.. unless you fancy a dynamic raped anorexic sound, in that case compress away heheh. dont compress for the compressing but just limit to elements bouncing in the mix and/or ask for some bundling sqeeze, dont fck too much or to soon with a fundament of the track, really. thats my 2cts.

zongo · Post by **zongo** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:36 pm

dubgil wrote:
zongo wrote:I usually throw away the kick's attack. As cheaper said, no click involved.

I'm too lazy to create my kicks from scratch so I always use very basic samples from classic hardware, then I start the sample after the kick's attack and tweak the attack setting on the sampler on 30 ms or more. I often use layering so I use the same attack parameter on all the kick samples.

Here's an example in a track I'm working on. It's not finished yet (far from it, right now it's only a loop with no automation) but the kick is done : http://soundcloud.com/zzzzra/la-violence-pre-version
ha ha ha, I sent you a msg last week on the discogs forum, didn't realize you on this board too. I love yer stuff on bandcamp...

Thanks mate !

I hope my input was useful, my english isn't very fluent

steevio · Post by **steevio** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:06 pm

buonacc wrote:most of the Maurizio/Basic Channel stuff is just straight 909 sounds.

here is the simple answer.

straight 909, no compression, no eq, attack right down.

classic muffled kick sound, cant beat it.