looking for some points on kick drums in DUBTECHNO
I may be over complicated things, but *sometimes* in dub techno songs, while the kick drum is there, you can barely hear it. I'm wondering if this is simply a matter of keeping the kick track level down. I have this feeling its more complex, when i hear it my reaction is to call it a "muffled kick"
Is it an EQ thing, with filtering and stuff or is it like I assumed previously - just turn down the level?
Kick drums in dubtechno
basically these kicks contain no highs and no high mids (you don't have that "click"). EQ is the answer then.
When you want something to be closer in a mixdown, just push the highs and turn down the "space" (eg. echo or reverb), and when you want to add depth, just do the opposite.
When you want something to be closer in a mixdown, just push the highs and turn down the "space" (eg. echo or reverb), and when you want to add depth, just do the opposite.
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I usually throw away the kick's attack. As cheaper said, no click involved.
I'm too lazy to create my kicks from scratch so I always use very basic samples from classic hardware, then I start the sample after the kick's attack and tweak the attack setting on the sampler on 30 ms or more. I often use layering so I use the same attack parameter on all the kick samples.
Here's an example in a track I'm working on. It's not finished yet (far from it, right now it's only a loop with no automation) but the kick is done : http://soundcloud.com/zzzzra/la-violence-pre-version
I'm too lazy to create my kicks from scratch so I always use very basic samples from classic hardware, then I start the sample after the kick's attack and tweak the attack setting on the sampler on 30 ms or more. I often use layering so I use the same attack parameter on all the kick samples.
Here's an example in a track I'm working on. It's not finished yet (far from it, right now it's only a loop with no automation) but the kick is done : http://soundcloud.com/zzzzra/la-violence-pre-version
one thing about dub is it relys heavily on recycling. if you band pass an existing track around 50Hz with a 24dB bandpass, slow envelope, low ammount.. you will get that muffled sound. im not talking about samples though, but a full track, and not necessarily a techno one you know? i have the feeling that alot of the maurizio / basic channel kicks are reso-filtered from reggae tracks, wouldnt know for sure ofcourse, but try it, and you'll see what i mean
p.s. - plus, i kinda dont see maurizio synthesizing all of his kicks back in the day... according to his words in various interviews, it was mainly about a sampler and a bunch of old vinyl, so what else could it be you know...
p.s. - plus, i kinda dont see maurizio synthesizing all of his kicks back in the day... according to his words in various interviews, it was mainly about a sampler and a bunch of old vinyl, so what else could it be you know...
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