Plastikman

cloutier · Post by **cloutier** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:32 pm

humeka wrote:
cloutier wrote:cristian vogel

your list is a bit strange to me... I agree some of them are clearly minimal like pole or porter ricks but in the field of plastikman?

does the persons entire catalogue of releases need to sound like plastikman, or are people allowed to put out a variety of music to be included in this list?

humeka · Post by **humeka** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:56 pm

@ cloutier: obviously you're the one who decide.

nonetheless, do you really perceive vogel as minimal artist?

cloutier · Post by **cloutier** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:00 pm

humeka wrote:@ cloutier: obviously you're the one who decide.

nonetheless, do you really perceive vogel as minimal artist?

the stuff i have of his that i enjoy, yes. sure, he's got some bangers in there, and he's also made some super artsy leftfield weirdo sh!t, but he's got some hot, hot jams.

and seriously, can the term "minimal" just be voided from history? half the sh!t people call "minimal" isn't even remotely close. its becoming as blurred as "deephouse" now.

humeka · Post by **humeka** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:05 pm

cloutier wrote:and seriously, can the term "minimal" just be voided from history? half the sht people call "minimal" isn't even remotely close. its becoming as blurred as "deephouse" now.

you're absolutely right.

vinnie pine · Post by **vinnie pine** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:27 pm

perhaps there should be a new genre 'minimal minimal' ?

Shepherd_of_Anu · Post by **Shepherd_of_Anu** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:31 am

humeka wrote:
cloutier wrote:and seriously, can the term "minimal" just be voided from history? half the sht people call "minimal" isn't even remotely close. its becoming as blurred as "deephouse" now.
you're absolutely right.

minimal has kind of become more of a marketing term I think. There are so many flavours of minimal now. When I think of "real minimal" (and I say think while thinking about the first records i recall hearing that carried the label) I think of super simplistic tracks that often verged on the boring.

When I think of the ultimate in minimalistic techno I often think of this GMAN record I have. Its practicaly just a just a bass kick that changes a bit. Truely minimal techo is kind of boring, especially if its played on its own.

Personally I love tracks that blur the line between deep house and minimal techo. I fuckin love that sh!t. I love deep house too. Speaking of deep house... lately I have really been liking "You give me love" by J. Axel ft Astrid Suryanto (Lypid mix)

Astrid Suryanto has a really nice voice. Google her and check out her myspace.

The music I really like that takes the best of both techno and house without becoming techouse. If that makes sense

Stuff from MRI, hikan Lidbo, theorum vs stewart walker, swayzak... and so on.

I am kind of curious, what do you guys think real minimal is and where should the line be drawn?

How would you catagorize someone like Boris Brejcha. What kind of minimal is that? Its like that newer kind of minimal... does it have a name? Newer minimal music seems to be more focused on progression and the current bars playing then the overall state of consciousness.

Do we even need all these lables? Does it matter?

grace anxiety · Post by **grace anxiety** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:04 am

PM The Minicoolboyz

Noize · Post by **Noize** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:42 am

Found what I'm lookin' for; almost everything from minus.

Thank you all!