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Time change... 8)
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Atheory wrote:your grasp of the european vs american business model is absolutly hillarious. im european and i can't take that point seriously...
thank you, i try to make fun sometimes, glad i succeed 8)
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Rich wrote:"Richie is like what Tiesto is to Trance..."

I think that is what most people are objecting to, tbh.

You may not be aware of it, but in the UK we watched commercialism kill the hardcore scene. Early nineties breakbeat hardcore was big in the underground, but then a period of ultra cheesy, commercial tracks such as "Charly" by The Prodigy, as well as "Trip to Trumpton" by Urban Hype and "Sesame's Treet" (f*cking AWFUL!!!) put the music in to the Top 40 record charts, made LOADS of money for the record producers, and took all the credibility and respect away from the music and the scene. That was the beginning of the end, when underground producers wanted to be pop stars and fill their pockets with $$$.
indeed so, but isn't that the case with most new styles? In Belgium you had NewBeat that ended when they started making newbeat versions of schlagers, you had gabba which ended when popular peops started making riduculous versions, etc. Now the entire country is infested with Jump and you already have items on the 7 o'clock news about kids who are jumping on the playground or a guinness world records attempt ( how to get 1700 retards to dance to idiotic jump music and make em think it's cool ).

I personally find this Minus thing quite funny, but I hope they won't take it a step too far that suddenly big companies and everyday schlager-singers will all of a sudden start making "minus-minimal versions".

(if you allow me one nasty swipe at Minus: all they need for such a version is to pitch the voices to -15%). Again, I just don't get why Minus is so big, because it certainly isn't because they have released decent music in the last 15 ep's or so. It's mostly marketing indeed, and Hawtin riding the waves of his former status and blind followers of fashion who will say yes to anything he does.

Still, I admire his business skill, which I had the budgets that Minus had, I'd throw Forteana or Coincidence Free Parties all over the fucking planet :lol:
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element.8 wrote:off-colour comments and hating aside...


they're doing exactly what they wanted to do...and its get you talking about m_nus. how good of a promotional move was this? fucking...brilliant.
Well, to be honest as soon as I saw this thing I deleted two troy pierce tracks out of my crate on beatport because I can not support these guys. I have some gigs coming up and I decided the only real thing I could do to feel good about this is not play there music. I wish I didn't care what they are doing but it just doesn't seem right. Building community and "newer closer forms of communication," does not need to involve membership cards. There are all ready so many closed circuits or alienating environments in our lives why actively try to market another one? For me it's not even about commercialism so much as it is about the use of advertising to promote something new and different that really only has profit as it's motive. If their motive was to alienate their older fan base and push people away from buying or promoting their tracks then I think they did a great job. getting more people into good music is a great thing but this is getting them into it for all the wrong reasons I think.
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element.8 wrote:so i happened to mention to my friend that the cube looks like the energon cube from transformers...


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ahhaha, great work! :!: :!:
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