Using white noise for bass

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Using white noise for bass

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Has anyone ever used pure white noise solely for a bassline? I've read a few times you need to cover as much frequencies as possible to get the thickest bass sound, so why not starting with all frequencies and use say a bandfilter with some resonance to give it some direction? I've been playing with this a bit and I was wondering if people have actually made some tracks with it.
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Wouldnt that be just a self oscillating filter creating a musical tone? Pretty unstable over a keyboard range id imagine. Or do you mean the noise itself generating a tuned chromatic notes?

Ive played around with noise and have been convinced that after some filter and envelope shaping, that noise is making a definite pitch but only from a percussive perspective, not for it to generate musical lines. If the synth has an A/440 tuning tone, try switching that in and test it.
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AK wrote:Wouldnt that be just a self oscillating filter creating a musical tone? Pretty unstable over a keyboard range id imagine. Or do you mean the noise itself generating a tuned chromatic notes?.
I mean using the noise to fill the bass range rather than creating musical basslines. You often hear those basslines with just a stab of one bassnote and it's harmonics. So what if you use noise as a starting point so you have a range of frequencies instead of a selection of harmonics?

Here's an example I made with analog in live:
http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/78093226/file.html
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I cant listen at the moment as im on my mobile, recently moved and all my gear and pc is away in storage while i decorate. Will check it tomorrow via library.

I know you're saying noise contains a whole bunch of frequencies but theres no fundamental as all would be pretty much the same amplitude, so im imagining a low pass filtered percussive sound rather than a bass with tonality. That is unless the filters resonance has given it tone?

Like i say though, cant hear today unfortunately and its not something ive tried so just educated guesswork as to how it would sound or work. White noise?
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AK wrote:I know you're saying noise contains a whole bunch of frequencies but theres no fundamental as all would be pretty much the same amplitude, so im imagining a low pass filtered percussive sound rather than a bass with tonality. That is unless the filters resonance has given it tone?
The resonance gives it somewhat of a tone, but it's not tonal, like you say. So I'm thinking is it absolutely necessary to have a completely tonal baseline, or can I choose a small range of frequencies (let's say 5Hz under and above the resonated frequency) instead of that pure tone? Which one will sound better?
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Post by hydrogen »

sounds like a good idea... just trust your ears.
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Really good man!
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Dektro wrote:Here's an example I made with analog in live:
http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/78093226/file.html
Sounds a bit noisy (duh), but I can see it work.
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