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Post by Farabee » Thu May 31, 2007 8:02 pm

You can write something that you're 100% behind, and that your friends are 100% behind, and people you don't even KNOW are 100% behind and still shop it out without it getting signed. Happened to me plenty of times. It's a really rough business in general, and while getting records out will help you get booked for gigs, sometimes you won't sell records unless people know you can rock some decks or gear live. It's a vicious cycle really. One way to circumvent this is start your own label, but that's a ridiculously high investment with no guarantee of return. You can get some big names to release on it and remix your own stuff, but that'll just drive up the investment price. You might get noticed but you'll take a loss, and any gigs you get may just be for making up that loss.

The minimal scene right now is really stagnant I'd say, I'm hearing a lot of really boring stuff that while intricate and well produced is utterly boring and unmemorable. Keep in mind a lot of the big producers and DJs in mnml right now aren't big because they're groundbreaking musicians...they're big because they're good businessmen.

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Re: Money involved in producing

Post by Sebastien Gabriel » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:03 am

adam wrote:
Shoma wrote:
credit_agro wrote:
What would top minimal djs get for playing at festivals and clubs?
Dunno for sure, but its said that DJs like Sasha or Paul van Dyk, get around 30000 (thats right, 30 thousands) for 2 hour sets :roll:

I think you have an extra zero in there somewhere.

PVD made 50,000 for a gig. So no there is not an extra zero. Not to mention his yearly income comes in around 2-5 million.

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Post by bip » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:28 pm

cyhl wrote:
credit_agro wrote:But with minimal...?
the influence of the amount of money you have to make things happen exist at every scale! I've seen some minimal djs (even pretty "small" ones) who would like to go to the next level but don't know how to produce, pay somebody else to make tracks for them, then release a record under their name... just because releasing a record is good to get dj bookings! and that's just an example of how to use money in this business...
that's true! i know a couple of exemples.... (personally)

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Post by BobStock » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:41 pm

Erick E for example.

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Post by maks » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:17 am

"The music business is cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, there is also a negative side".


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Post by Rosscoah » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:18 am

seamus wrote:
Torque wrote:In fact that's the best thing you can do to somebody starting out is to tell them when they bring you some bullshit. The ones who have the real drive for battle will go back home and keep on doing it and never give it up until they come back with something that will blow minds.
in that case, surely you have to be careful that you don't just end up making music that pleases other people, rather than making music to please yourself? OK, maybe people won't like it enough to want to release it.....but surely better to have something that's YOURS remaining unreleased, than to have a record out that's been edited at the request of various others to the point where it's not what you intended to create?
Well said!

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