Legal advice on white labels

- open
User avatar
patrick bateman
mnml maxi
mnml maxi
Posts: 5432
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:02 am
Location: Copenhagen Denmark
Contact:

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by patrick bateman »

you should be able to get 300 pressed (with good mastering) for around 900ish euro, so you should be able to break even if you sell all 300 units, but nope. No earnings here.
Dal-Tech
mnml mmbr
mnml mmbr
Posts: 237
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: NY, USA From DFW, USA
Contact:

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by Dal-Tech »

john clees wrote: also, it's in your best interest to start a company. here in the U.S. I think you can show a loss on your taxes for 3 years before anything is even questioned. I originally did a D.B.A. - Doing Business As... $45 registration at the county for like 7 years or something.

save your receipts as write offs, throw a party, give away free stuff, have fun and create a buzz... :)

best wishes..
This is true to a point. With the IRS *you have* to be trying to make a profit which is hard today releasing vinyl. So getting a business liscense just to release wax if it isn't producing profit will not be a viable business.

The only way around this is if you are a sole propieter or LLC that makes money doing business with something else. So if you make money in the Art and Design field you can have a vinyl label and treat the loss as a write off. It could be viewed as promotion part of your art business.
Dal-Tech wrote: Everyone else is trying to be cool, not me.
hey everybody : I'm a douche !
Dal-Tech
mnml mmbr
mnml mmbr
Posts: 237
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: NY, USA From DFW, USA
Contact:

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by Dal-Tech »

Cheaper wrote:
1. you use not cleared-samples, or stuff you dont have the copyright for.

2. you dont pay taxes for the earnings you make.
I understand, but i don't use non cleared samples so it's ok

Given that a 300 units pressing with good mastering is around 1000 euros, and that most distributors will by 3/3,5 euros max a piece, can we really talk about earnings ?


I was thinking about founding an association. Here in France it's extremely flexible and it gives you a moral person and VAT number
Before you worry about all that stuff see if any distributors are interested in your music.
If not you're dead in the water. Don't try self distribution. Record shops and online stores won't be interested. My .02
Dal-Tech wrote: Everyone else is trying to be cool, not me.
hey everybody : I'm a douche !
User avatar
patrick bateman
mnml maxi
mnml maxi
Posts: 5432
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:02 am
Location: Copenhagen Denmark
Contact:

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by patrick bateman »

Dal-Tech wrote:
Before you worry about all that stuff see if any distributors are interested in your music.
If not you're dead in the water. Don't try self distribution. Record shops and online stores won't be interested. My .02
Quite a few actually do this...
Dal-Tech
mnml mmbr
mnml mmbr
Posts: 237
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: NY, USA From DFW, USA
Contact:

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by Dal-Tech »

I stand corrected.
Dal-Tech wrote: Everyone else is trying to be cool, not me.
hey everybody : I'm a douche !
User avatar
Cheaper
mnml mmbr
mnml mmbr
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:56 am

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by Cheaper »

Record shops and online stores won't be interested
Yes they will eventually. If they like the music they'll sell it. But i agree, this isn't the way to go.

Look at all the bootlegs you find in shops, they're not from any distributor
soundcloud.com/capsularecordings
Dal-Tech
mnml mmbr
mnml mmbr
Posts: 237
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: NY, USA From DFW, USA
Contact:

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by Dal-Tech »

Cheaper wrote:
Record shops and online stores won't be interested
Yes they will eventually. If they like the music they'll sell it. But i agree, this isn't the way to go.

Look at all the bootlegs you find in shops, they're not from any distributor
I got a very cold reception from most shops in NYC. This is from not even looking at the record. Maybe it's better in Europe.
Dal-Tech wrote: Everyone else is trying to be cool, not me.
hey everybody : I'm a douche !
ray parry
mnml mmbr
mnml mmbr
Posts: 403
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:34 pm

Re: Legal advice on white labels

Post by ray parry »

Cheaper wrote:
Record shops and online stores won't be interested
Yes they will eventually. If they like the music they'll sell it. But i agree, this isn't the way to go.

Look at all the bootlegs you find in shops, they're not from any distributor
i know lots of people that have bootleg labels and they all go through distributors.
Post Reply