digital dj license (uk, canada, finland)...?!?!

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cloutier wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_DJ_license


someone want to explain this to me?
In the countries where digital DJ licensing is used, the license is also required for playing music originally bought and downloaded directly on to a computer, usually in mp3 or similar format, unless the license of the online music store explicitly allows the public performance of the downloaded tracks.
3.^ "This includes legally-purchased downloads, which are normally licensed only for personal use, as well as copies of tracks from records or CDs", from Digital DJs 'unaware of copy law'
I've never read the license of Beatport etc, so I'm not sure what it says?
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it's also in Belgium.

The thing is: you can play with the original files (so f.e. with traktor or whatever), but when you burn the files on a cd or copy them or import them in Ableton, you make a copy, thus you are obliged to pay 'reproduction rights'. That's why they have created that 'dj license'.

Which is total bollocks because you do pay repro rights on digital files, or better, the label pays this for you (your digital store deducts about 10% of every payout). So in other words: it's yet another scam of the copyright companies. Again.

For the belgians:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... 110124_061
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PsyTox wrote:it's also in Belgium.

The thing is: you can play with the original files (so f.e. with traktor or whatever), but when you burn the files on a cd or copy them or import them in Ableton, you make a copy, thus you are obliged to pay 'reproduction rights'. That's why they have created that 'dj license'.

Which is total bollocks because you do pay repro rights on digital files, or better, the label pays this for you (your digital store deducts about 10% of every payout). So in other words: it's yet another scam of the copyright companies. Again.

For the belgians:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... 110124_061
What about promos?
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patrick bateman wrote:
PsyTox wrote:it's also in Belgium.

The thing is: you can play with the original files (so f.e. with traktor or whatever), but when you burn the files on a cd or copy them or import them in Ableton, you make a copy, thus you are obliged to pay 'reproduction rights'. That's why they have created that 'dj license'.

Which is total bollocks because you do pay repro rights on digital files, or better, the label pays this for you (your digital store deducts about 10% of every payout). So in other words: it's yet another scam of the copyright companies. Again.

For the belgians:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... 110124_061
What about promos?
Promos are given by copyrights owner so probably you cant be sued for playing them, well logically.
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LouisVee wrote:
patrick bateman wrote:
PsyTox wrote:it's also in Belgium.

The thing is: you can play with the original files (so f.e. with traktor or whatever), but when you burn the files on a cd or copy them or import them in Ableton, you make a copy, thus you are obliged to pay 'reproduction rights'. That's why they have created that 'dj license'.

Which is total bollocks because you do pay repro rights on digital files, or better, the label pays this for you (your digital store deducts about 10% of every payout). So in other words: it's yet another scam of the copyright companies. Again.

For the belgians:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... 110124_061
What about promos?
Promos are given by copyrights owner so probably you cant be sued for playing them, well logically.
Logically yes, but :lol:
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quite the opposite: in fact, you are not allowed to publically play promo copies, not even on vinyl or cd or whatever. Promos are purely -as the word says- for promotional purposes: to let industry people listen to upcoming releases. But that professional cannot play them publically, he should get himself another 'final' copy.

Record stores who sell promos are in fact selling music illegally.

It's all this crap that is giving people the ideal excuse to "stick it to the man" of course. And the sad thing is: if you would only make a good chunk of money from all this sabam stuff, ... I mean, as of last year, every belgian company is required to pay Sabam for every radio that is playing in the office or workspace (!). For our small company, that means a yearly fee of 380 euro. But how can they know which music is being played? For all they know I could be playing cd's of coincidence all day long, but we don't get paid sh!t from copyrights. That simply blows, and at the same time, people see that as moneygrabbing and figure that illegal downloading is not so bad because "you artists get money from that fee the company has to pay anyway!".
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Maiyal wrote:Ugh. I heard of someone getting a massive fine here in Finland when djing at a club, because all of his tracks were downloaded illegally. Only heard about this happening once, though so must've been bad luck.
I have not heard of any such stories. But if his tracks were downloaded illegally it serves him right.

If you do get caught you get fined per track so if you have 300 illegally downloaded tracks you'll propably end up being a very bankrupt dj.
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