oblioblioblio wrote:ChrisCV wrote:oblioblioblio wrote:If you were to look around the world, before Europeans came, Australia, North and South America. These communities lived very peacefully, I believe. I think it was rare for people to be selfish in an unbalanced way, tat is so common in the West.
This is a completely bollocks statement.
thanks for helping to resolve the matter so charmingly.
Do you have any evidence to verify this? As far as I can tell these communties were very successful and mature.
contrary to popular belief the ancient and pre industrial world wasn't a world where we all held hands together, lived off the land in complete equilibrium and were one with mother nature...
all of human history is littered with destruction and extinction....
like the others said north and south american natives were pretty brutal between tribes... yes they had their communities and had developed, but they would have wars with neighbouring tribes for very much the same reasons we do today - territory, control and resources.
there is some evidence to suggest that the north american indians wiped out all the large mammals due to over hunting...
in the polynesian islands the tribes there were in a constant flux of war with each other... they also practiced cannibalism as well..
Easter Island is a good example of a history that we could repeat.... Easter island is that small remote island in the pacific with the massive stone head sculptures... back in the day that island was thriving with people, various tribes had thrived on the fertile land.... they would make head stones from the nearby stone quarries as a sign of their wealth to the gods or whatever... they would use the trees there as rollers to transport them... as their wealth increased they made more stone sculptures... they used more trees to transport them.... to the point where there were no more trees... the lack of trees accelerated the water run off and erosion of the island... so their crops failed, there was suddenly no food... so there was massive competition for the little resources left... the tribes turned in on each other... and savage wars occurred and the victorious tribes resorting to cannibalism for food... the civilisation on this little island collapsed to the point of self extinction.
there's loads of these tales in human history... i guess the difference now is that our technology amplifies everything... we can commit genocide at a push of a button and we can ravage the land on a larger scale... but the root reasons for doing so are still the same..