DJ T's views on minimal

vermi · Post by **vermi** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:30 pm

don't see the problem either. he's totally correct. 99.99% of the music stated as minimal these days is the direct opposite of minimal. sounds more like pitched-down hard house or something.

kristofason · Post by **kristofason** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:22 pm

vermi wrote:don't see the problem either. he's totally correct. 99.99% of the music stated as minimal these days is the direct opposite of minimal. sounds more like pitched-down hard house or something.

Dunno about the hard house bit

tone-def · Post by **tone-def** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:11 pm

kristofason wrote:
vermi wrote:don't see the problem either. he's totally correct. 99.99% of the music stated as minimal these days is the direct opposite of minimal. sounds more like pitched-down hard house or something.
Dunno about the hard house bit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8JjTQWx3y0

vermi · Post by **vermi** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:21 pm

kristofason wrote:
vermi wrote:don't see the problem either. he's totally correct. 99.99% of the music stated as minimal these days is the direct opposite of minimal. sounds more like pitched-down hard house or something.
Dunno about the hard house bit

example: http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54252 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTmv8xAWv3M )

or the one tone-def posted

TwelveHundred · Post by **TwelveHundred** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:01 am

vermi wrote:don't see the problem either. he's totally correct. 99.99% of the music stated as minimal these days is the direct opposite of minimal. sounds more like pitched-down hard house or something.

I'm thinking "Maximal" where is the opposite of "Minimal"..

More industrial, harder, more uptempo, more melodic layers...

Yeah. I don't see the House..

I think even then True "Maximal" could only have one real house trait...

Funky broken beat basses.

camus · Post by **camus** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:19 pm

well , the problem with guys like T is bashing , what is the point ?
i mean hear what is cool now, this kind of bongo / house or whatever , now that everybody jumped into this wagon it seems mandatory for them to spit on whatever they call minimal and they used to play themselves ... it is easy to know what they will be bashing in 6 month ...

tone-def · Post by **tone-def** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:57 pm

camus wrote: i mean hear what is cool now, this kind of bongo / house or whatever.

bongos in house have always been big. but they kind of suck as a lead instrument.

when people start recognizing creativity again the bongo house will be in trouble.

Marvid · Post by **Marvid** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:36 pm

tone-def wrote:when people start recognizing creativity again the bongo house will be in trouble.

No copycat feels at home where creativity dwells - but it's gotta be well received, too. And that's the tough part most of the time - finding a place where you don't have to bend yourself to fit in. Existence of a taste-police with commets like “unsuitable” set are a sure sign for an anti-creative approach towards music.
That's where I'm with DJ T: there's no need to love all the content available - but everyone who raises structures above substance just kills everything.
The eternal struggle between people who just want to contribute without limitations and people who cant do so (for whatever reason) gaining control over structures to fill their inner emptiness with a feeling of power.
In arts it's just embarrassing - in other aspects of life it hurts and destroys souls & bodies.