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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:44 am 
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I don't really see how it would be very effective with much music in the current so called "Minimal" style because they usually need to be layered into the background in a mixdown because if they're out front it can become confusing to the listener when dancing. It probably wouldn't have the same effect in a mix that was more sparse.

A great example of polyrhythms in use would be the Red Planet records


sorry, i really have to totally dissagree with what youre saying here mate. i've been making polyrhythmic minimal music for 13 years now, and have never had a problem making people dance. infact polyrhythms make people dance in ways they never thought possible. polyrhythms are the most primordial of all music forms and lie at the heart of all tribal music.
it was the danceability of detroit techno that got me into it in the first place, and it was the polyrhythms of detroit techno that set me on my current musical path.
polyrhythms can be minimal just like anything else.
i would however reinforce what your saying about it not being just percussion. every single sound in any of my tracks is polyrhythmic, i might have a bassline in 7/8, a chord in 3/4, a hi-hat in 5/4, getting it all to fit together is the hard bit, and getting it to be spacious is even harder, but thats the challenge for me in music, if i did everything in 4/4 i'd be bored shtless.
trance music is also polyrhythmic, but is based on 16ths, so theres no space in the grooves at all, its just a constant bombardment of notes, take away 95% of those notes and you've got minimal polyrhythmic music.
the current minimal trends have got nothing to do with minimal music as a whole, if you limit minimal music by only seeing it in its latest incarnation, you've got tunnel vision.
one of the main reasons why current trends tend to be locked in a 4/4 dimension, is because of the advent of software based music, and its just too easy to get yourself locked onto that 4/4 grid, and not venture away from it. this never happened to the detroit pioneers, because the machines they were using, encouraged the use of polyrhythms. for instance if i want to use my SH101, i have to trigger it with a rimshot from my 909 because it has no midi. what i trigger is basically a sequence of notes which can be any length i chose. so if its 5 notes, its playing in 5/4 with the 909. instant polyrhythyms without even trying !!!

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wow steevio wow
you are putting in words what i start trying to grasp in my mind as a result of (yet vry limited) experience with mnml music

wow again


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stevio, i think you unlocked a whole new universe for some of us. lol

would you be so kind to make a few polyrhytmic loops and post them as an example?

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listen to his myspace page, it's full of it.

http://www.myspace.com/steevio


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Try to find his Rogue patterns Vinyls, and you will hear it in pure elegance!

Timeless piece of interesting AND danceable minimal music.
Love them!!!!!

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thanks for all those kind words guys !
i'm really busy recording at present, but when i get a chance i'll stick some loops up here.


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This is a very interesting topic to me. I listened to your myspace page; Rogue Patterns Vol 2, I believe. It's kinda hard for me to really hear the polyrhythms, maybe if the tracks were separated. But the idea is intriguing. I'm not sure I completely understand the concept.

I'm at work but will post some questions later.


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 Post subject: Re: polyrhythms
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:46 am 
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I found this tutorial which explains poly rhythms and how to create them using different techniques.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEgc2Y ... 7GgfmD8cVw


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