Only that producers should put limiter on master. and when it starts working(when you see gain reduction), you are pushing the mix to hard. Should they now? I tend to avoid putting anything on the master. Surely there's no need if you're mixing at sensible levels (i.e. master peaking well under zer...

yeah could be. is he a "hardware" guy? just wondering, since many "analog equipment mastering guys" with high end converters know better about clipping and limiting than guys like me (it's their job) and often clip their converters on purpose (if so desired) in combination with l...

Why would he use the word limiter then? Does that make sense to you? Nice graphs though. Thanks. because he doesn't understand it. I made the screenshots by using live. The third picture is the same sinewave going above the 0dB... you see what happened: it got shaved off, while pic 2 is using live'...

Ableton are not telling us something. anyhow waiting for the response still. You get it wrong. It has nothing to do with Ableton not telling you/us something. It's just the math of digital audio. There is NO LIMITER in the master channel!!! 0dB is the limit and when you render a track which e.g. pe...

it's true. but it's not really a "limiter". It's just that the output will not go over the 0dB border, so it's more of a clipping. I think it's the same for logic too. so basically you could use live master buss for limiting/clipping duties...could sound ok but there's certainly other too...

it's true. but it's not really a "limiter". It's just that the output will not go over the 0dB border, so it's more of a clipping. I think it's the same for logic too. so basically you could use live master buss for limiting/clipping duties...could sound ok but there's certainly other tool...

Thanks for the reply John!

I guess I'm (we're all) spoiled or more comfortable with getting the job done easier and quicker without the "code-efforts" in 2011

AVX23 wrote: Mark my words - he'll do one that sounds like dettmann soon enough, and I'll be waiting on the sidelines with the others to jeer at him and tell him he's 5 years too late

bull...

AVX23 wrote:he's always been a DJ and produces tools to play.

amen.